F3G,. .. .Many thanks for that one. I think I will arrange another w/e in that area when the weather is warmer. Sounds fascinating.. .. .Flatspin,. .. .Last time I was in LA I managed a bit of formation flying in a Stearman at Chino. Sunrise looks very good and I think I might see if I can arrange a spot of dual night flying with them. Many thanks for your interest.. .. .Pulse1 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" />