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Old 25th Jul 2008, 02:22
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MartinCh
 
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1) Certain schools will suffer.

2) Not everyone coming to the US on J1 gets instructing job.

3) Some of those who come, are students for US citizens as well

4) FW schools definitely take advantage of cheap, hardworking and knowledgeable instructors

5) 'premium' JAA schools will definitely suffer short term, but then, hey, we have H1 visa if s hits the fan. Not flexible though

6) Yeah, I can understand sentiment of RW US citizen students, but if they go after their career, they'd be just fine. Unlike those Europeans who blew all the could possibly scratch on RW CFI and don't have any chance of getting 'real job' without hours.

7) those skint FAA CFI guys (and gals) coming back to Europe with no more money left and still 50-100 hours to get only to start expensive FI training (thank God for Bristow's JAA FI, well, who knows for how long if EASA rules get mad - see end of JAA instructing outside Europe threads)

8) I'm finishing my PPL (H) and leave it to show off to girls in bar and keep on flying planks if all this thunderstorm hits..

Especially as some of us still need lots of savings/strike of fortune to fundraise for CPL/CFI training.

I hope this 'statement of policy' doesn't go through and loses enough steam if certain influential lobbying is exercised on behalf of the aviation training industry. God bless (this status quo). Whoa.

I sincerely hope these words are no more than the rumours or suggestions of finishing J1 for aviation students.

WHAT ABOUT ALL THE MEDICAL J1 STUDENTS/TRAINEES? And other professions and training? Why just us? I need J1 to go on.

BTW, some schools have steady supply of Chinese, Taiwanese and Indian sponsored ab-initio cadets (FW wise) so they'd be just fine with M1s.

As for F1, it's fine, but will drive already superexpensive training even higher, shelling out extra 8-12k USD a year for 'degree' one doesn't really need for flying in Europe or for getting the funding (we're not Americans).

Yeah. Those of you who feel against slave/cheap labour for flight instructing:

Get a grip.
Who do you think wants/needs more money out of instructing (unless very busy most of time)?
American who has to support himself, pay off loan or provide for own young family
OR
European guy who came here and spend shedloads of dosh, flowing INTO US economy, paid for all himself/from home and only wants to get some time flown for whatever meagre hourly wage/salary he/she can get? Even the ones who don't need to cover living costs as they have money for living after training?

So the cost of paying decent salary/wages to instructors will be then projected into cost of training for wannabes.
Also, J1 students with over year of work visa left, will go to work for school far from 'civilisation' or to not so great place, somewhere 'locals' don't go or want to/arent any around...

I, for once, would love to go and spend my money in NZ or OZ school if it was financially viable. I even started my aviation career plans with heli schools in Australia. Thanks to AUD getting stronger and the prices 'down under' as they are, not easy for rotary flying. We can work part time while studying, outside schools, but then, paying for courses we don't need, international fees just to stay and get flying experience?

Plus around 400 TT for instructing there, btw. Quite a blow. Check out details yourself.

I'm off to check out the seriousness of the release.
Not sure I'll fundraise enough until June 2010. Otherwise they'd be finishing them anytime soon so no more J1 persons on US soil by then..

Happy flying (hate flare part of autos in Robbie... still need it better)
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