dragon man, you have to pick an issue and stick with it. Your previous comments were about pay and my figures suggest that over the 'typical' career in QF the pay will be better under EBA8. The real pay benefits go to 767/A330/787 pilots and even the 744 drivers end up better off in the short term although that tapers off a bit after a couple of years. Keep in mind the bonus as well.
With pay resolved, now your concerns are on the issue of consultation. I emailed AIPA with some thoughts a couple of years ago when they first asked the crew for input. I emailed some COM members semi-regularly since then to provide other thoughts and to seek updates. I was always acknowledged. I've spoken to Eytan and Barry a few times along the way also.
I'm with AoA though. I'm still a 'no' until I've seen the finalised document. That said, I still reckon the pay matters worth a 'yes'. The devil will be in the detail.