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Old 21st May 2008, 11:19
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PK-KAR
 
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http://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/...200802821.aspx
Happened at 9May08, 1602Local. PK-GEF/737-8CX (32363) Denpasar - Perth Gotta be GA726...

The threshold of runway 21 was displaced as per NOTAM and the information was broadcast on the ATIS but during short final, the crew of the Boeing 737-800 queried the presence of vehicles on the runway and commenced a missed approach after receiving the information from ATC. During the second approach the aircraft appeared to aim short and was instructed to go around but the aircraft levelled and landed past the displaced threshold.

The investigation is continuing.
Kalo baca dari si ATSB docket, it was already NOTAM-ed.
I fear there's something wrong in the way GA issued the NOTAM, and training regarding temporary displaced threshold.

Mandala better than GA? I dunno, fatigue is a higher risk at Mandala at the moment. But they relieved 1 Captain from flying status not too long ago for "refusing to adhere to the new culture of abiding by the SOP."

One: Rapid expansion so quick promotion to command.

Two: The hierachal system where the Captain will never listen to a F/O or a F/E as he considers himself a God and thinks of himself above everyone else. The cockpit is teamwork and even thought the Captain has the final say, he should be listening to other crew members who point out a mistake. But a F/O will never point out the Captain's mistake as he will think this will kill off his career.

Three: The loss of face system where the Captain will never go-around when things look bad as he knows the F/O will tell everyone else.
Then I wonder on at least 3 airlines (though not included GA), the chief, and DFO called the F/Os and asked "do you want these guys to join the company or not, since it'll be you guys flying under them if we take them in" when the company was considering taking in a few captains from "a former airline with dodgy crew training reputation".

A friend in Garuda on the left seat have 1 pet hate... "first officers who just obey orders and are reluctant to challenge the captain outside the simulator"... He says, "I don't want to fly with these guys!"

After the GA200 case in JOG, we can see why he doesn't want to fly with "those types" of F/O...

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