Guys, has no-one ever had the situation where he's thought "if only I could have those ten seconds again"? We've all made errors of judgement and, thankfully, most of us have gotten away with them. These pilots have presumably had a few days suspended without pay, and are now having to face "trial by prune". Could I ask the pilots to reflect how they would like their fellows to comment if ever their error becomes public, and at the same time ask the others on this tread to log off and go play with Flightsim. You can f*ck up all you like there and no-one will be any the wiser.