englishal - it's you who's talking cr@p, I'm afraid. The Hobbs meter is not a sufficiently accurate method for recording valid flight time. Which is the time from 'chocks away' to 'chocks under' in any case - not from engine start/battery master on. If you've been logging hours by the Hobbs and have used those hours for licensing purposes, technically you could be considered to have falsely represented your flight time....
You become 'Commander of the aeroplane' long before the engine is started; if one of your passengers falls off the wing when embarking, it's you who will be held to blame if you haven't briefed them properly....
[ 04 November 2001: Message edited by: BEagle ]