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Old 27th April 2008 | 20:46
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Philpaz
 
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Im struggling to see how the airlines forcing people to pay extra for a TR by asking for this as a requirement, is any different to them forcing people to pay more to go integrated rather than modular, by saying they will only accept/prefer integrated students.
I dont think the airlines are forcing anyone to do anything. They are simply taking advantage of peoples desire to get in the RHS of a jet. Thats the whole point of these discussions, you have those that would and those that wouldn't pay. I agree that in principle, paying for Integrated is no different to paying for a TR though. You are using your own financial clout to get a step up on the ladder, the principles are the same.
The simple fact of the matter is that aslong as people are willing to throw money at training then companys hold all the cards, not just the airlines, the FTO's too. I mean seriously, does it cost 65k plus for a (f)ATPL?
If I had 100k burning a hole in my pocket i'd be Integrated now and then if no joy after a few months with the licence i'd be knocking on the door of any airline that would let me SSTR (with a job at the end of course).
IMHO everybody on here disagree's with the system as it is, but the main reason for all the bitching is jealousy. The green eyed monster staring at anyone that makes it to the RHS before they do and picking up on anything that they can to justify to themselves why this is so. If you had the means ofcourse you'd do anything possible to get the job and if you disagree i would suggest your in denial.
A few months ago i was hoping to go to Africa on completion and fly some Seneca/aztec (or similar) to get some experience and have some fun, after a reality check (and a few harsh words from the Mrs) i've realised that at my age i'm best off going straight for the airlines and hoping for the best, i'm modular because i dont have the means to keep my house going and my daughter fed for 18 months without saving for another year and time isn't on my side.
I think the bottom line here is that people choose the training that suits the pocket first and the personality second, this is true in all walks of life otherwise we'd all have DB9's parked outside our palaces.

Dont hate the players, especially the ones that have worked there tits off to have the money to keep there options open.

Also, heres another analogy (just thought of this while listening to my local friendly owl and having a smoke);
  1. Why buy a Ferrari when a fiesta gets you to the same place?
  2. Why get the seacat when the ferry gets you to the same place?
  3. Why take the private jet etc...
All these are both ends of the spectrum with the only difference being price and time taken, the answer being because you can.

Just realised how long my post is and cant be bothered reading it back so feel free to give me a broadside,
my wings are like a shield of steel-----BEEP-----.

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