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Old 1st April 2008 | 22:06
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ShyTorque

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Alternatively, ATC say nothing, let the infringement occur and leave it to the magistrates court to deal with, no doubt with the CAA eventually becoming sick of GA and putting in some draconian rules which will hurt all GA pilots.
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As I suggested in my original post on that issue, I'm calling because I know my responsibilities with regard to obtaining a clearance to cross airspace. To assume that unless ATC tells me not to enter controlled airspace I WILL infringe, is a bit of a slur on my professionalism; that's why I don't like the phrase.

If I'm simply told to "Standby" and receive no clearance in good time, I'll go round the airspace or make other arrangements. I can often tell from listening to the ATC r/t load before my call, whether or not to ask for a crossing in the first place; a classic example is the western end of the Luton CTR. I plan an alternative and if told to "Standby" will immediately put plan B into action and go round / under the CTA.

I can understand that infringements have taken place where an (inexperienced, or badly trained?) pilot has blundered on having called right on the boundary, or perhaps already inside - but in many of those cases, I would suggest the pilot was uncertain of his position, rather than uncertain of his responsibility.
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