A few years ago we had a twit on a lake North of us complain that the noise of the CL215 fighting a fire about three NM from his cotage woke him up in the morning, gues which lake was used next Spring for "scoop an bomb" training? you got it, six 215s and two new 415s scooping and bombing for a whole week ,the rest of the lake residents just loved the show , not so the nimby.