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Old 26th Mar 2008, 22:21
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Widger
 
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This is really sad and shows a lack of understanding from many of the posters on here. TAD was not talking about RAS in class G, he was talking about penetrations of Class D by aircraft without authority.

We have a very limited commodity in the UK and that is our airspace. There is not enough of it for the military to do what they want or the amount of civil traffic to flow without restriction. The whole system is bursting at the seams and the attitude of "well it's class G so it's fair game" does no-one any good.

sticking 2 fingers up to all other airspace users, then having the audacity to file a TCAS report when they have a close aboard, is a prime example of poor airmanship)
A TCAS requires a MANDATORY report to be filed, they are not being audacious. A TCAS manouevre is not a gentle climb/descent but quite significant in an airliner where crew and passengers may not be secured. In this thread, there is very much an air of us and them from both sides of the community here. The civvies are not "out to get" the military, they just want to get aircraft en-route, on time without delay. There are many military personnel who use LO-COs so criticism of them is a bit perverse. On the other hand, the civvies see a few military jets (in comparison) using up vast expanses of airspace, especially when there are MDAs etc available for use, all of which have been established with their full agreement.

TAD's initial post obviously got some hackles up and I understand that, but some of the subsequent posts have shown an extreme lack of understanding of the bigger picture. Be careful, methinks sir doth complain too much!
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