Chickenhawk66:. .. .I can't comment on Doctors and Cabinetmakers but during the past several decades Flight Instructors on the whole have deterioated in their flying skills and by default their ability to teach same.. .. .The reasons for this downturn is not easy to pinpoint exactly, but contributing factors are partly due to aircraft design changes and the bureaucrats who lay out the training guidelines moving from teaching physical flight skills to paper oriented subjects such as the ever expanding rules and downright goofy psuedo science in their vision of so called human factors training.. .. .That is my very brief thoughts on your question, but yes the overall competancy of flight instructors has taken a downward turn and it is evident by observing their product.. .. ................. . <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />