Ludwig,. .. .I have never retorted on this or any forum before in this manner but a post so pompous as that on page 1 of this thread, that requests replies "discuss" should get a reply that reflects the vast number of pilots who fly in the GA sector for fun, many of whom have thousands of "hands on flying" hours and demonstrate exemplary flying skills, yet do not have a commercial job. Not everyone learning to fly wants to be a boeing driver.. .. .As it was pointed out earlier, www overstepped the mark. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="rolleyes.gif" />