Bertie was correct with the three month recheck.. .. .The real problem is who will ensure the instructor even comes close to knowing how to land properly???. .. .Therein lies the problem. Instructors that are not competant due to having been taught by incompetant instructors.. .. .This has been going on for many years, the big problem is the morons in Government that dictate that to be competent you must spend all your time learning useless crap that just keeps pouring out of the monster they have created.. .. .JAR is the ultimate level of stupidity they have reached yet, but hang on it will get worse. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> . .. ........... . <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />