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Old 13th March 2008 | 17:40
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DFC
 
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But he can for all airspace that requires a ATC clearance to enter. ie Class D upwards. Class E i'll give you but why are you asking anyway?
1. Transit of class E prior to entering class D. Standard initial call of remain outside controlled airspace fails to recognise that for VFR flight, Class E is controlled but no clearance is required.

2. As can happen in the UK - one unit says remain outside controlled airspace but other unit being worked says cleared to join at xxx FL xxx.

3. Remain outside controlled airspace rom a unit that provides FIS only and ignoring the fact that there is an airway in my 12 O'Clock 5nm that is class E.

If the argument goes that pilot could enter unless specifically told not to then why is the call limited to controlled airspace. Does entering Restricted, Prohibited Danger and Temporary Notamed airspace not have similar risks to the flight being talked to?

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throw a dyce,

Perhaps you should read the class E airspace controlled airspace requirements in that big heavy book.

Regards,

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