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Old 1st Mar 2008, 08:56
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TurbTool
 
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..." You obviously have absolutely no idea (or choose to ignore) how a GOAL as suggested by AIPA would work.
I personally heard the AIPA president explain his concept of the GOAL. He definitely referred to base/type/company freezes etc in order to convince the companies to agree to the cost of the additional training the GOAL would bring. He agreed when questioned that some pilots could be held, for example on the Dash8 at Eastern, while a new recruit went into mainline as an So or Fo or J* as an Fo.

Read into it what you like but if pilots could willy nilly jump from one type to another and one position to another at their whim at the company's expense then there is no way management will ever agree to the GOAL. The AIPA president, I am sure, knows this and that is why his concept included the freezes. Ask him yourself.

The labour governments new IR legislation states that if 50% of a group of employees wants an EBA, then that is what they shall have. AWA's will be dead next month.
In that context consider this scenerio.

The J* pilots vote NO again. Management accepts that decision and continues to employ under AWAs while it can, offerring the terms and conditions of the failed EBA to all existing and future AWA employees as well as existing EBA employees willing to switch to the AWA on those T&Cs. J* ends up in the short term with 200 EBA and 200 AWA employees.

Assume a ballot is held regarding EBA choice and 50% Vote for an EBA. The Company negotiates and offers an EBA on lesser terms and conditions than the existing AWAs, will that be accepted by the EBA pilots? If so will the new legislation require all existing AWA pilots to transfer to the new EBA on lesser terms and conditions? I think NOT. The 50% that voted for a new EBA may get it but it will not guarantee all J* pilots are on the same deal. That is assuming the J* pilots could actually get themselves into a position to negotiate a new deal on behalf of the 50%. Of course AIPA and the AFAP wouild be both willing to do that on their behalf.

The danger in relying on the Labour Governments legislation to deliver a better deal is self evident. Don't forget who introduced individual agreements etc in the first place. The Labour Government will not outlaw individual common law contracts.

Now consider that the new EBA negotiated on behalf of the 50% is a better deal than the AWAs. Then all pilots could go onto it. So in short no detriment to the AWA contingent. But a very big risk to the EBA guys in the event of a NO vote on the current Ballot.
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