Captain Sherm,
Whilst AIPA has the legal right to represent Jet* guys they can’t negotiate for them unless the Jet* guys want their representation. They can’t just storm an EBA negotiation uninvited and force anyone to deal with them.
If the Poor Cousins do join AIPA they would be responsible for their own terms and conditions anyway, as distinctly separate as S/H and L/H are within QF now.
You’ve taken this the wrong way I’m afraid and maybe I should have been clearer. The Jet* pilots will be their own master in voting and determining what they want. The point here is no Mainline S/H or L/H guy can force them to accept something that is detrimental to their existance. When it comes to a Jet* EBA it will ONLY be Jet* pilots who can vote. What they gain is the resources of a bigger association (Legal, industrial, administrative….) and the unity that prevents one group being played against another ( And when a group list eventuates a whole bigger field of career opportunities).
So……… AIPA wants to help Poor Cousins to solve problems that it can’t solve itself because it is industrially neutered, wishes Jetstar would go away, wants all the 787 flying, has no scope clause and can't even arrange for time off for its own negotiators.
Regards not being able to negotiate time off for negotiators see Kegs post #169 back 1 page. As far as a scope clause, when’s the last time you saw one of these agreed to by any company. They just don’t happen anymore as companies will not impose arbitrary limits on themselves. Whilst AIPA probably would prefer Jet* didn’t exist it does and they are trying to change the situation to the pilots’ benefit. They are not trying to get all the 787 flying and have openly stated that they can’t dictate in which of the 2 brands Qantas allocates the 787s.
While we’re separate groups that can be used against each other our industrial strength is limited. THESE GUYS ARE PLAYING HARDBALL AND THEY’RE NOT STUPID.
Nuf.