Merged: Jetstar EBA 4

[Captain Sherm]

Some more thinking points that occur to this weary observer of the dogfight whose own wings are now folded but who wishes all pilots well and hopes all airlines will grow rapidly:

• Keg has pointed out that legally AIPA’s mainline pilots can do nothing industrially to help their Poor Cousins in Qantas Link and Jetstar.
• Some on this thread suggest that there is arguably some doubt as to whether AIPA as a whole actually wants to help its Poor Cousins
• If the Poor Cousins do join AIPA they would be responsible for their own terms and conditions anyway, as distinctly separate as S/H and L/H are within QF now

So……… AIPA wants to help Poor Cousins to solve problems that it can’t solve itself because it is industrially neutered, wishes Jetstar would go away, wants all the 787 flying, has no scope clause and can't even arrange for time off for its own negotiators.

And these are the foundations underpinning the negotiating “expertise” that would in effect be the sole reason why Jetstar pilots should join AIPA? What else do they offer? If AIPA had strength (in negotiating skills or industrial tactics) then wouldn’t it negotiate a better deal all round for the Poor Cousins anyway? Today. Why haven’t they done that up until now? Are they withholding their negotiating skills til they get their hands on the membership fees of the Poor Cousins?

In closing I also note that someone pointed out that JPA is “too close” to management. Has any JPA President yet crossed the fence to become Chief Pilot a la the traditional Qantas career path...?