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Old 22nd Feb 2008, 01:08
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Lowkoon
 
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It seems you guys are having similar difficulty with the word "Illegal" Capt Underpants. The new legislation specifically applies to buyouts, making it illegal to just put us on the bottom of your list and reduce our terms and conditions, without recognising our previous seniority and terms and conditions. Sounds fair to me. You had better hold off on the final print of "Mein Kampf" big fella. There is a bit more to this one than "its our bat and ball."

I agree with you that the Y scheme wont work here, and probably isn't the appropriate template for this situation. Y scheme works when they all fly the same tails, as in the Qantas case. In this case, they wish to keep 2 separate brands, so why integrate? 2 brands, 2 lists. Simple. The reason it has been complicated is that CX only want to integrate a few of us. The Manchester guys, so they can solve their crewing problems there. What if they then have crewing problems on the 330 in HKG? Do they then integrate the HKG based 330 guys to solve that problem too? Remember that will be easier for them, no laws stopping them in HKG like there are in UK.

If KA wants to get out of freight, which is really what is happening, then they need to face facts, offer redundancies, reallocate positions to HKG for those who want to go, and then if we have too many people, we have a redundancy list specifically for that purpose. Under their own admission, we would get the next 8 330s if we could crew them, so plenty of room for anyone who wants to come. (Not many do).

If guys take redundancy from KA, they are then entitled to apply for a job at CX, and join the bottom of your list like any other new joiner. CX freight know that their package is inadequate, and they wont get any applications from the guys that leave. Too many other good jobs going.
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