God you have to pity DFC - its obvious he/she thinks that trying to make amends is done by saying "yeah but im right ANYWAY" and telling other people what they should know and think.
They obviously have one of those personality disorders that prevents them from listening to anything apart from their own pre-conceived ideas and prejuidices, not absorbing any information provided and being incapable interacting normally with others.
For someone who lists their occupation as P1 its very worrying. I for one would not get in ANY airplane with this dangerous idiot at the controls. I hope some first officer never has to call a go-around when this clown is P1 -chances are the go-around call will be ignored because this IDIOT just knows whats best-ALWAYS.
The sad thing is, the potential to make some good points is there-they just continually get it ass ways.
For instance and to qoute : ""Macker,
You and I both know that in a matter of days or perhaps weeks we will be back to overtime without any complaints - probably better paid overtime but it will still be the same overtime as was done before to keep things going.
So all that will have happened is a few weeks over which there were a few zero rates applied and then back to the same old same old.....but with more money for it.""
A monkey could tell you that if the system is to run WITHOUT delays then of course overtime is required because we are so short of staff. But one of two things can happen
1) IAA do nothing and the delays and closures will continue as there isn't just enough staff.
2) The IAA come forward with a range of concrete proposals. The first and most important is what are they going to do to recruit more staff?. That means concrete figures for SCP classes, an AD campaign in flight international to recruit direct entries, and a plan to show that in 5 years we wont be back in this situation again when retirements kick in.
As people are sick of doing overtime anyway, and any overtime requirement will have to be structured then as i keep saying , the proposals on tuesday will have to be very , very attractive and interesting.
Even if they are attractive and interesting that doesnt mean that in a few weeks all the delays and closures will be gone. People are so angry and pissed off with our own company that many have been turnrd right off doing anymore than they are contracted to do. Add into that the sizeable MAJORITY who never do overtime because their days off are so precious its conceivable that even if the IAA chuck a HUGE increase at the problem - they might not get the overtime requirement to fill the gaps caused by being SO SHORT OF STAFF.
Did you grasp that?
Last chance......................
So first and foremost-recruit more staff. Then people will listen to all the rest -BUT there are no guarantees.
If you are indeed a P1 and have paying passengers down the back you should be appalled that the person keeping YOU safe is being put into a situation where they are working 3 to 4 hours without a break and are fatigued well before the end of their twist. Never mind fatigued at the end of their twist. Then add in the requirement for a bagload of overtime and you get the picture.
The one thing the public wants to know when they fly is that they are safe. Wonder how they would feel if they knew how short we are and all that entails?
Yours as ever
OCK1F
DFC you owe this thread and the people here an apology for the AF1/Osama comment. Lets see what you are made of.