To answer some of the above points and hopefully put this thread to bed.
The C172 "incident" was simply an example of poor airmanship. The aircraft was overloaded and the pilot flew straight into a CB looking and chatting about their GPS position with the stall warner going full blast.
This thread is neither being pedantic or a whinge. as I said, I could have posted this on the FI/FE page but chose to put it here.
I have just read the AAIB report on the PA28 accident close to the beach in Blackpool. If that doesn't make all of GA to think carefully about their flying ,I don't know what will.
Last edited by pembroke; 16th February 2008 at 12:19.