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Old 15th Feb 2008, 11:12
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- they are not understanding the difference between a TU-154 with a wing thick like a dozen of telephone books and a CRJ, with a maximum of two.
The Almaty accident was German registered and German crew. The Birmingham, UK crew mentioned in a previous post had no Tu-154 experience, nor did the Nov 28 2004 CL-601 crash in Colorado, USA, that occurred in circumstances that look very similar to this one at first sight.

A Feb 14 2008 CRJ-100 in Armenia
A Dec 26 2007 CL-604 accident in Kazakhstan
A Feb 13 2007 CRJ-100 accident in Moscow
A Nov 21 2004 CRJ-200 accident in China
A Nov 28 2004 CL-601 accident in Colorado
A Jan 4 2002 CL-604 accident in Birmingham, UK

All take-off accidents, all lost control at or right after rotation, all flipped on their backs, all in winter conditions.

I think that Bombardier should emphasize the importance of taking off with a whistle-clean wing when flying this aircraft.
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