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Old 15th Feb 2008, 09:41
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Mr Bomb
 
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I can't believe it, a couple of threads in a week that I an provide useful semi-intelligent prose to...

Firstly Carlo Copp is an idiot, whilst he maybe a great theorist, he has absolutely NO practical knowledge on what is required to maintain and operate aircraft, he has no idea on what the actual capabilities of the nations closest to us in the region are (he MASSIVELY overstates this continuously) and lastly he must think that Australia has the budget of the US to spend on defence.

On this particular subject I would just like to say that Saddam in January 2003 was recognised as having the BEST HAS (Hardened Aircraft Shelters) in the world. Yep impenetrable. That worked well didn't it Carlo?

There is an actual defence against these types of attacks however this would cost hundreds of billions of dollars just to fit out our five northern bases. Plus the fact that geographically most of the land in Northern Australia is not suitable to this defence (that might give you a clue...)

The second point on this I would make is that in order for there to be a threat, you have to have capability and INTENT!!! There are only two nations on Earth who could possibly hope to invade Australia and take over the country. That is the US and China. NO ONE in our region regardless of the pitiful few billion each country spends on Defence has even the remotest capability to put anymore than a couple of bombs on Darwin. yeah we might get a bloody nose but any country other than the US or China would find out very quickly not to piss off the West. How many countries would come to our defence. A lot of people say, yeah but what if they are engaged elsewhere? Very true, but I can assure you that most nation in our region along with nearly every western country in the world would come to our aid, probably even the French. People do talk of India and or Pakistan being a threat, and they do have the bomb, but I hate to tell you Carlo, there is **** all we can do militarily to defeat a nuclear device. No there is no THREAT to Australia’s security from conventional nations in our region.

As to a war, well hello everyone , what do you think is currently happening. Our cities might not be under air attack and we might not be fighting the enemy on the streets of this country, but make no mistake, we are indeed in the middle of a war right now. If you think I am exaggerating mark my words that as previously stated Islamic Extremists want nothing other than the annihilation of our Western society and way of life. Yep we are relatively safe in Aus at the moment and this is because the enemy is too busy fighting the "good fight" in other parts, but this "war" isn’t going to be finished by the time everyone reading this today is long dead, it will go on for generations.

Carlo, defence against suicide bomber does not require Hardened aircraft shelters. I don't know if you have toured our northern bases, but other than Tindal and Darwin there is stuff all there. And my question to you is, why the hell would a suicide bomber who has high value, high impact assets as his primary would waste his miserable life on one Hornet (yes Carlo if we are at war we only put one aircraft per shelter...) when he could achieve a much bigger impact by walking into a daycare centre and detonating his bomb? Mate you really have no idea how the real world works, what the current and future threat is going to be. I reckon you should get out form behind you desk, head on over to Iraq, Afghanistan, Horn of Africa, anywhere like that, meet the people find out what they are pissed at and see if that changes your perception. Until then leave the real defence of this country to those who live in the real world sunshine. The cold war is over and it is a brave new world with new threats that will be here for generations.

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