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Old 15th Jan 2008, 22:32
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Lemurian

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When there is confusion...

From Norman Stanley Fletcher and some others :
..."to give you a feel for what the pilots may have experienced, these are the paramaters that would have to occur for Abnormal Attitude Law to be invoked:

Pitch attitude > 50° nose up or 30° nose down
Bank angle > 125°
Angle of attack > 30° or < - 10° (- 15° for A319 and A321)
Speed > 440 knots or < 60 knots
Mach > 0.91 or < 0.1..."

All the above is correct as are all the posts dealing with flight control reversions.
They, IMHO, are hardly applicable in this case as :
  • They were on autopilot
  • A passenger was quoted as reporting that the captain came on the PA and said that " the A/P had been knocked-out and they were flying manually".
  • This points to an A/P disconnect.
    The conditions are a lot smaller than those for a reversion :
    -High speed protection is active (Vmo bust)
    -Alpha protection is active (AoA greater than Alpha prot +1° )
    -Pitch attitude over 25° nose up or 13° nose down
    -Bank angle in excess of 45°
As everybody was talking about 50 to 60° bank angles and some porpoising, one at least of these reported values could have triggered an A/P disengagement.
Please note that in this case, they could have re-connected the A/P when calm conditions were resumed. The reason why they - apparently - did not could be explained by caution and - maybe - confusion as to the causes of the upset.

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