Capt Wooblah: yeah ok......
........I'm settled. I too have seen cockups from within my own flight deck. Been there done that !!
As Professional Flight Crew we are the last line of defence, the last hole in the swiss cheese. etc etc We cannot afford to become flippant about such things, in the past Crews have become flippant and they AND their pax paid the ultimate price.
Anyway I think I made my point.
Don't F
with mother nature.