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Old 24th Aug 2001, 14:26
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14 43.20 FE <<failure....engine 2>>
14 43.24 FE <<shut down engine 2>>
14 43.25 Capt <<engine fire procedure>>
14 43.27 No 2 Engine parameters fall
14 43.28.7 No 2 Engine stops receiving fuel
14 43.29 A fire handle is pulled. In the wreckage the No 2 fire handle is discovered to have been pulled.
14 43.45 Capt <<(are you) shutting down engine 2 there>>
14 43.45 FE <<I've shut it down>>

Thus it is clear that the engine was indeed shut down without a clear, unambiguous command having been given by the Captain. Indeed, in a classic piece of Gallic ambiguity, the report states "The engine 2 fire alarm came on and the crew announced shut down of this engine a few seconds later". This is most certainly NOT the same as "The Captain ordered the shut down of the No 2 engine"..............

The report only refers to the overweight take-off; nowhere do we read what the RTOW actually was. Have any PPRuNers access to a Concorde ODM or take-off graph for the RW in question? If so, perhaps they would care to calculate the RTOW for both a zero wind and an eight knot tailwind on that RW??
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