Apologies Shytorque - i was getting a little carried away there. My speciality is the fag packet sketch.
It's a raw nerve which comes from having to defend my role to other departments. Part of it is that have lived in US, France and Germany. I found when i said i was an engineer folks would ask which discipline, in the UK folks assume i mean plumber or electrician. Feels a bit unfair for so much hard work...
Merry Christmas all!