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Old 18th Dec 2007, 17:55
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vsgla - you are ill informed

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The detrimental effect to the company was furthest from your mind as your members focused on what they felt would put you among the best paid pilots in the industry.
This is absolute rubbish. Our union briefed us via roadshows, emailed powerpoint dispalys, forum postings and paper correspondance. We knew exactly how our company was performing, both financilally and in comparison to other airlines. We were briefed on many aspects from overheads, the percentage of staff costs to overall oparating costs, labour productivity figures (ATK per $ labour costs), cost per seat km, etc etc.

We were informed what we could expect to achieve, when the union thought they'd achieved what they set out to do, and above all, if it was sustainable, and not detrimental to the company - because unlike the vast majority of cabin crew, pilots join Virgin for a career

As I have stated previously, I believe you should be paid more, but your progress needs to be slower and more progressive.

Our union were a match (and some) for the management negotiating team, because they went in 110% prepared, and with absolute member solidarity.

Your union could also achieve something close to this, if you were better prepared and all sang from the same song sheet.

Of note, prior to the 2 latest deals we struck over the last 6 or so years, our union/company council weren't so organised resulting in a split of the company council members as to whether to recommend a deal or not; needless to say the ballot returned a split vote (akin to yours) and we achieved very little.

Re-group and go back as a "UNITE"d front and get what you deserve, don't rush in and blow it for many years to come.

Oh and tell that pratt Boyd where to go, and find someone your members will have respect for.
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