KO: I am not crew and if you re -read my post I stated that the base was a long time coming and am of the feeling that money spent on training is a good thing,its the frivolous spending that I dont understand and I am aware the place was on the cards a long time ago.Also I am against industrial action but the point I am trying to make is if the management expect us to toe the company line with respect to cost cutting etc then maybe they should lead by example and dont even start me on VK.....Coming from the department which is the 'necessary evil' maybe I am being too practical here and should stick to changing wheels and pouring oil in engines??