Name me an RAF related PFI (apart from MT at Brize) which has resulted in any long term improvement in efficiency or cost effectiveness. Once internal capability has been lost, the contractors can jack up the prices and always do. Even the original bids are usually less effective, it's just that the flexibility of servicemen is seldom given adequate 'weighting' when costing bids, while service manpower/infrastructure costs often look high.. .. .Just one will do..... . . . <small>[ 05 March 2002, 23:51: Message edited by: Jackonicko ]</small>