lucky b*, i for one am not getting the bonus and am unlikely to as they will have moved the goal posts again by the time i get to the appropriate point in my career, as i have some way to go, although i am not as young as you may think. Glad i got such a spicy reply and i am sure there are more to come but i will answer all replies in a fair way. You cannot expect to be paid the same as pilot and nav aircrew unless you do the same job. I agree that the guys i work with down the back may save my neck one day infact a couple of close occasions do spring to mind. i for one do not wave my WAD at anyone i have more sense than that, in fact i don't know anyone who does, if thats your perception then it is very misplaced. it may be how it seems to you but you are wrong, there are many guys especially at multicrew stations who are getting the bonus who have not told anyone. I realise that all branches are short of people nav's included so get your fact straight before you start sl***in other branches and people off for trying to offer a sensible view. If you were commissioned as either a pilot or nav you would get the same money, so stop whinging and do something about it. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />. . . . <small>[ 20 March 2002, 18:39: Message edited by: currybuoy ]</small>