Well flaps you are one of the reasons that I left, please do come along outside and be in the same wage and allowance package as myself, ok the Capts get more but FO's get the same and in some places less than the FE. If I now have to go the fr8er route I would be pleased to have ex RAF nocker ALM's with me, the FE side of things outside is only luke warm at the moment but I feel that it may improve in the future and yes you are right I would take ex nocker FE's as well sorry for the AEops if I could find something for you guys as well I would. Then where would you be oh yes in your little fast jet, no-one to tank from no one to pick you up when you go swimming but hey you get the wages now don't you and you can sit in the crew room and talk about flying. Upsetting the AA is only one of your problems, your attitude will rub off on the groundcrew and yes I was one of them as well. 25 years man and boy and yes there were prats like you that long ago as well.