The thing that strikes me about some of the above posts is the level of "control" that is expected from various "authorities". In the open FIR and with the permission of the property owner who else needs to get involeved? Why do we need insurance for this? (I know we need it any way but not for this purpose alone). SN3Guppy, if landing or taking off then within reason the proximity does not apply etc etc. Get some freedom into your minds and enjoy the open skies. I often go for a "tour" and neither ask for anything nor speak to anyone.