I was also stunned by the stories reference crews and engineers experiences with security but also somewhat outraged by the response from the Permanent Secretary and indeed tha CAA which smacks of "Dont confuse us with the facts because our minds are already made up". Just because they dont formally have many MORs does not mean the problem does not exist as is shown by 70 reports to CHIRP. The authorities seem to be out of touch with what the end users are suffering from on a daily basis.