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Old 4th Nov 2007, 13:14
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Or be looking for a fair deal ! When you buy a lottery ticket are you down with misery because you have lost £1 or are you focused on the end result ?

Walkman - you keep going on about the % of the crew and the non votes. It really doesn't matter if in the next round 50% of people dont return the votes and of the remaining 50% 30% votes Yes and the remainder vote no that 30% of the 3200 is enough to carry a 60-40% in favour of action. So... clearly 30% is strong enough. The numbers do not mater - it is a "snapshot" of the crew. You can argue till you are blue in the face about the actual number of votes but it makes no difference.
You are missing the pojnt regarding the people who did not post back the ballots, they did not care about the pay deal but will care about a strike costing them money.

Its the pro strikers who have banged on about 60% voting no, its not 60% of the union, but 41% of the Union, that is a big difference.
Its not a snapshot as the anti pay deal pro strike came out and voted wheras the rest did not. that won't happen in a strike vote. If you think you can carry a strike vote, I have a bridge to sell you.

As for the lottery analagy, they will be focused when they cannot pay their bills due to strike action.

Not that I think it;s relevant but you will find there are strict criteria as to who goes first, not selective criteria - that's illegal.
Actuallky due to the latest anti age discrimination law, the criteria has changed from "last in first out" to a criteria based upon the persons abilities. Going out on strike is not a positive ability.
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