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Old 3rd Nov 2007, 20:16
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Grease 7
 
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I see lots of other departments getting involved calling us selfish, I see the one that isn't calling us selfish is the flight crew, who are the other unionised department who have been down this road (though times were different and the situation different).
If the times and situation were different then there is no comparison to be made is there?

Selfish - why because we are tying to improve our working conditions - the negotiations have failed so the remaining tool is now being used as the flight crew did a few years back. I suppose it is selfish in that it's my bills, my mortgage and my years of seniority that I shouldn't have to give up to go and work for the likes of BA to get a fair package.
No but as I have already said perhaps you all need to help yourself. A very quick calculation working on only hourly rate shows that if the crew only halved their sickness levels that would free up at least an extra £1500 pa for every single crew member. That is nowhere near the true amount that would be gained, that is a much higher figure. And if you are really that unhappy perhaps you should move on. There appears to be a queue waiting to fill your shoes.

If you read my previous post you will see that your pay rates are pretty close to a technician in engineering. What makes you worth more than them? Is what you do for the airline worth more? Why should you get a bigger payrise. Is flying round the world dealing with passengers worth than getting soaked changing wheels or stripping toilets down or any of the 100's of other filthy jobs we have to do.

All the sympathy in the world for other departments won’t pay my bills.
No but me getting made redundant because you turned down 2.5x the payrise I had won’t pay mine either. And have you worked out how long it will take you to recoup money lost if you strike, that won't pay your bills either.
Could I suggest that a portion of that blame go in the managements direction also who have failed to further negotiate, we are still willing to go to the table.
Yes but how much exactly do you want?
As for the numbers in the vote, doesn't matter if only 10 people returned it, that's democracy. I suggest those not happy at work in a non union work force join one to stop yourselves being exploited.
At best laughable, at worst seriously insulting. Perhaps some time in the real world would teach you what being exploited really is. You obviously have no idea at all.
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