I struggle to understand some of the naive attitudes on this thread. The loyalty you show is admirable, you have been brain washed with the Virgin ethos, and now you are prepared to work for less than the industry standard. At BA the CC are selfish and militant, but they have probably the best conditions and pay in the industry. Virgin doesn't care about you, Branson puts the profits off shore and claims the company cant afford it, wake up! Its not a big family, sorry to destroy your illusions, its a business and you must fight for the right to be treated and paid like other crew in companies doing a similar job.