empacher48 Let the abuse continue....
You will give yourself tennis elbow there lad, favouring abuse like that:
kiwi chick empacher48 - I totally agree with what you said and I don't think you sounded like a tosser!
I do 
No doubt in another 10-15000 hrs you will look back and realise a few things, hope you survive it my friend.
The point is even having an out is not a guarantee that you will survive the out manouver, its knowing "when to use the manouver before you need it" that counts in my book.
H/Snort
