Scoobdoo, one more thing, sorry.
Any negotiation is made up of tactics. The first deal is always going to be bad and here at Virgin we as crew always say NO to the first deal, whatever it is.
The second deal was also bad in my opinion and there was some bad comm's that came about with this deal.
Then the self funded deal came up where we had to give up too much. That was never going to get through with the crew.
This final deal I feel they have listened to us. OK there is not loads of money at the moment, however they listened to us and took out all the stuff we didn't like.
Did that please me? Yes it did.
That is why I think this is the last chance with this deal. I also think we need to trust our reps here. That's what we pay them for and I agree that this is the best deal that they could get.
I also don't want the company to crumble if I'm honest with you. I am still proud to work for VS after nearly 19 years. If I wasn't then I would leave and go work for another airline.
Anyway I'm waffling now, sorry.
Take care
Virgin 89