I will be saying NO to the new deal. I just think the new deal shows that Virgin management are still way out of touch with what and how the crew really feel. The feeling that im getting from my last few trips is that the crew are more fed up than ever, its not just about the pay this time but the fact that the company are only recognising loyalty in one rank. There are a lot of loyal crew out there who have been in their ranks for well over ten years and surely they deserve recognition as well. We have to stick together and say NO. Its going to be a tough few months for us all but if we say YES the company will just be laughing at us, they have little respect for us as it is!