Originally Posted by mr ripley
When the video was taken the temp was apparantly over 30 degrees and this combined with an elevation of over 4000ft would make for interesting conditions
Do them here at the Talon OCU - regularly 30C & PA 5300 at KIKR. You do use every bit of the recommended 7000' of runway to do it.
Interestinly, USAF now say buddy start preferred over windmill taxi. Methinks it has more to do with temptation of getting airborne should something go pear shaped - a la crash at Lajes many years ago, loss of Lockheed HTTB in '93/95??, & others...
Originally Posted by wiley
and if memory serves me right, the manual said you had to give it away wth 5000' of runway remaining
Currently, at 4000 remaining, you begin braking action.
Originally Posted by wiley
I know a bloke who managed to get the last engine of an 'E' model up and running after a starter failure at Nui Dat, in South Vietnam - which was only 5,000' long. I suspect the latter stages of that windmill start that would have been a tad exciting, if not for the crew, then certainly for the grunts at the end of the field.
Have heard this story. Way I heard it was run down RWY, quick 180, run back down other way, quick 180, run back down rwy & finally lit! Three trips down to get it spinning at sufficient speed...
Originally Posted by country calls
I can see no reason why a buddy start could not be used on an engine with a broken starter motor, but am willing to be corrected.
You're correct - it can be done with a duff starter. The buddy start was typically used after no electrics & prop cuffed though - otherwise, windmill is more efficient.
I do them regularly in our training syllabus. We can very easily get them going w/o the operating asymmetric engine at all & in less than 5000' even at 4200' (where we do most of our trng) at 25-30C. Another technique is leave it feathered, accelerate to about 40KIAS, then push/hold condition lever to airstart - works a treat.