Saz, you also make some very good points. We have to keep things realistic people and 10-15% is never going to happen. As stated earlier its the conditions that i didnt agree with, and after speaking to alot of crew online they felt the same.. I certainly would be happy with an increase on basic pay, even of 2%, with an substantial increase on trip pay, and allowances. I havent met any crew who prefer this monthly standby, and its causing alot of upset. Morale is lower than ever, but be strong and support the union as much ever!!!!!