Look boys, everybody is entitled to their opinions and that's just mine. I enjoy flying with 95% of the guys at CX, however there are the minority that think they are something pretty special and treat the whole thing a little to seriously for my liking. electricjetjock, i'm still here, flying, same as you mate, so i don't think i made the wrong career choice, been doing it for 11 years commercially. SIC, i'm not suggesting you personally have given the rest of us a bad rap, I'm just saying some guys do. I've flown with ex builders, policeman, even an ex-milkman, they did just fine. Flying pays me a wage and that's about it for me. For others it's more than that, fair enough. I don't care what job people do, they all get treated the same in my book. You boy's keep doing it your way, i'll do it mine.