Come on guys. Times, and technology change. When I first started flying, they had Adcock Range approaches (N/A), Loran C (and probably B), Consolan, navigators, star charts, sextants, and Ocean Stations. The ADF/NDB had its day...the only reason to keep them (mentioned only once in an earlier post) is to get the news and broadcasts of sports events. These are admittedly very important..if technology can provide these services without ADF/NDB, they should go the same as steam engines and semaphores (sad, but part of life). Sam