lets all bitch at each other, that will teach em a lesson
There is a huge amount of information in this update. Don't be fooled and get caught up in the minutia.
For anybody who is not yet a captain, this is a pay CUT and its a bad one. You will earn less over the course of your career, then be forced to work more years to make up the difference.
For Captains on the B scale, this will force you to fly freighters and further divides and weakens us all.
A Scale captains, this deal may be tempting compared to the lousy extensions previously offered, but it is time for all of us to stand together.
The company will always push for dividing pay scales. Based guys vs. Hong Kong, A vs B scale, even now the want to divide us again with COS99 vs COS08. We need to push for unification. Real unifiaction. Same scale for everyone. Local pilots should get housing. NO MORE DIVISIONS. We simply can not allow a new COS for new joiners and take the, "it's ok it doesnt afect me" attitude. It screwed the A scale and they will try to screw the B scale with it too.
The definition of stupidity / insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results.
Let's stop doing the same thing. Band together, vote this down. when they give us a re vote, vote it down too unless it is actually better.
If they want to force this on us then let them do it. At least then we have legal recourse for breach of contract, and it will hurt the recruitment.
This deal is pathetic. It will barely match inflation anywhere over the next 2 years. Then it stops?!?!? No more increments?! If this was a pay discussion it would deal with pay for more than 2 years. This is about age 65. It is not mandated today by law. Until it is, they will have to make the pay break even at least, including remuneration and lifestyle losses.
We have to stop bitching and start talking about courses of action. Then we have to ACT. Each and every one of us. This is the missing step in us getting anything done.
Numero C, I commend the work that you do and all the work the GC does. All of the guys who are bitching about the GC should either stand for the GC or shut up. You are as bad as all the non HKAOA members complaining about what the union should do when they wont even pay to join and vote.
So this leaves us with the question of what can we do?
In the immediate, vote this down. This is obvious, but necessary for several reasons. Not only will it prevent a terrible pay cut going through, but it will also show that there is perhaps a hint of resolve in this broken battered pilot group.
As much as I deplore the extension of the RPo4 / 07 and the subsequent re vote it caused, it still was voted through by the membership. Why did this happen? If the AOA body had shown any resolve, we would have re voted it down and then the company would have had no choice but to improve or impose, which brings us back to legal recourse at worst, and a better deal at best.
Everytime we vote something down, they threaten something worse and we run back to the first deal. This is a surefire way to show them that they never need to give us a good offer in the first place, and they never have to negotiate in good faith. No wonder the AOA negotiating team can't make any progress. The membership keeps cutting the ground out from under them every time we put through a revote.
Isn't it pathetic that we already know there will be a revote on this? Think about that!
The awnser is simple guys
No, then No again.
Its time to start rebuilding the HKAOA to the point where it is worth being a member.
Hoolio
(Dues paid in full from day 1)