antisthenes, that is a really valid point. On the other side of the coin, most people here will not know or understand the particular personality, but I am sure they could substitute a stroker from their past into the position. We had a Sqn Commander (as did our other resident sqn) who would cause me to fly in the opposite direction if he led a mission. At least ours did not sit in on South Armagh briefings doing work on his laptop!!! Peacetime V Wartime leaders is another valid debate. Sadly, in my time, the Peacetime ones were in the majority with good leaders seen as dinosaurs. Hopefully, with current operational tempo, the Jurassic Park might bring some of the good ones to the front......