Driver1 - All these things you mention will come to pass eventually, driven as they always are by market forces, redundancies etc. Economic realism always creeps in under pressure - it's never voted in by the unions or freely chosen by the workforce. Many of the changes are already under way over the years at BA - more flying hours per pilot, less crews per aircraft, some sections that are not bidline, not-so-silly allowances etc. The process will speed up now with the competition of the low cost operators....