Intruder - we seem to be very much on the same frequency? What appears to be missing is the 'Where am I now' and 'Where am I going' element of flying which I predicted years ago would fade away with the advent of the glass cockpit. Maybe we 'trads' should just give in and plug in a 'direct to' in the FMC and declare a Mayday if it stops working? As I said in #12 - "No wonder they get lost when the coloured writing on the screen goes out.

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I had the 'misfortune', a couple of years ago, to fly with an 'empty' FMC database for a while with a few F/Os - and most of them did not have a clue.