ok shaun, settle pettle, im not trying to piss off anyone here, but the records and job statistics from integrated schools like FTE and OAT within 6 months of graduation are pretty hard to argue with. There are usually 1,2 or more from a course who dont make it straight away too and anything could happen, there are no gaurentees of any job and that is one of the risks I have decided to take. You are 100% right that I havnt got my arse in a seat yet and havnt even started training. I thought I was being completely fair about modular/integrated saying that both sides have pros and cons. Personally I considered both routes so I dont get why you are getting annoyed at me? Maybe I didnt make that clear. Sorry to offend