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Old 6th Jan 2006, 17:50
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Cool Flybe MAPS

Now up and running - for scheme details and the on line application form go to the link on the Flybe website or direct to the Flight Training Europe website.
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Old 9th Jan 2006, 13:27
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Re: Flybe MAPS Scheme

Forgot to post the links: www.flybe.com/vacancies/default.htm or www.flighttrainingeurope.com
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Old 11th Jan 2006, 17:08
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Re: Flybe MAPS Scheme

FTE's current cost for their integrated course is 63,216 (today's Euro to Pound rate). The question here is are the "Mentored" pilots going to be on the same FlyBE salary scale as Direct Entry pilots or Sponsored pilots? I hope it's not the Sponsored rate cos that would be a bloody joke.

According to PPJN.com, year 1 on turboprops gets you 26,716 if you are on the Direct Entry pay scale. 22,756 if you are on the Sponsored Pilot pay scale:

Year Pay
5 28816
4 28291
3 27766
2 27241
1 26716


For those that go into this with very small funds you are looking at a 60,000 loan minimum with interest this is going to cost you 84,000 over 12 years or 583.33 every month for 12 years. If you want to pay it back in 6 years (which I think most sensible human beings would want) you will have to fork out 1,000 per month. All this out of your own salary. How can anyone manage 1,000 for a loan, 700 for a mortgage, 200 on outgoings for 5 years on an average salary of 27,000 !!!

This kind of approach cannot work with a FlyBE turboprop salary. It's madness paying out that sum of money to guarantee a job which will pay you a mediocre salary for 5 years.

Why not spend 35,000 going the modular route, if it takes you 2 years to find a flying job so what. If you're on a crappy salary like the FlyBE one for 5 years then at least your not an extra 40,000 in debt. Chances are you will find a much better starting salary than that anyway.

I know we all love flying but for God sake don't let them take the piss!!!
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Old 11th Jan 2006, 22:20
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Re: Flybe MAPS Scheme

Guys, you may have a point, but life isn't really all that bad. At least you have a salary that allows you a mortgage! Try being an instructor for same amount of years with equally the same if not worse disposable income renting a small flatlet thingy and nothing to show for it! No guarantee, no prospects! Hmmm, I know what I would have preferred at the time. It is a harsh thing to consider, but from my experience, there ain't such a thing as a free lunch and we have all paid for it in our own intimate way!

Good luck.
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Old 12th Jan 2006, 10:55
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Re: Flybe MAPS Scheme

My initial reply now seems a little on the harsh side, but for someone who is already earning over that, to consider earning below my current salary for 5 years in a row seems silly. I guess it's fair to say such schemes take advantage of people who have not seen/therefore do not know any better.
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Old 14th Jan 2006, 16:45
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Re: Flybe MAPS Scheme

Has anyone recieved a reply from the second stage. Also, does anyone know how many cadets they are going to take and how the remaining part of the assesment will be conducted.
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Old 15th Jan 2006, 14:51
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Cool Re: Flybe MAPS Scheme

Flybe looking for 2 courses of 6 pilots each to start at FTE during 2006. The 'on line' application form closes on the 16th January!
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Old 20th Jan 2006, 11:53
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I've just got the email saying Im through to the third stage. Has anyone else been invited yet because it would be interesting to know how many have been brought forward for selection.
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Old 8th Feb 2006, 11:38
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Flybe MAP Scheme

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Has anyone who went to the third stage heard anything yet?
The wait is killing me.
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Old 17th Feb 2006, 16:22
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At last!

Just got the email saying I've made the final few and have been offered a place. Anyone else out there heard yet. PM me.
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Old 17th Feb 2006, 21:46
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At Flybe 5 yrs would make you fairly senior!!, and almost certainly you would not be on the T/P F/O pay scale.

Probably om the T/P Capt scale by then !!!!
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Old 17th Feb 2006, 21:49
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I can tell you Flybe are now really struggling to find F/O's and Captains. They have lost some very experienced Skippers in the last few months and there is about another 6 F/O's about to hand in their notice. Another 8 new Aircraft to arrive this year. Get your CV's in. If you are a monkey with a licence you will get a job. Don't rely on the website it is just a smoke screen. Get on the phone, get a job, get 500 hours and move on to an airline and earn $60,000 plus. Easy!
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Old 17th Feb 2006, 22:05
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Hudson, why would you want to promote guys to join and then leave quickly?
Surly for those that want the short haul low cost life the promotion prospects of a growing company are great, and what makes the grass greener on the other sides, if you keep pushing guys to leave giving no stabiltity in the company !!!
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Old 17th Feb 2006, 22:22
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What's the chances they may open a base at Manchester, If I got a job with them and was based there, I would be very pleased.
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Old 7th Apr 2006, 01:22
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Flybe MAPS

Does anybody have any more information on what exactly this is? "Mentored Airline Pilot Scheme" - Is this likely to be some sort of ab-initio course?
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Old 7th Apr 2006, 14:03
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I wonder what there reason behind this scheme is, when there are plenty of low houred pilots of there.

The mind really does boggle!

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Old 7th Apr 2006, 17:45
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I wondered the same jinkster. Seems to me with this kind of course, its win-win for airline and the flight training school. OK, if the student gets a job at the end - great But what if he/she doesnt

With this set up, FTE get their money, and flybe has access to a pool of fATPL graduates (should they need them).

I'm not sure, but I don't think flybe guarantee a job at the end. Or do they?
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Old 8th Apr 2006, 02:40
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Iwould certainly expect them to give me a job at the end, if they had pre-selected me to attend the training course. However, this industry can work in mysterious ways!

Does anybody have any experience of a previous MAPS scheme, such as interviews etc?
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Old 20th Apr 2006, 09:44
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Time scale

I'm concerned by the time scale... it said commencing in June on the initial application then July on the written answers stage...will it be December by the weekend?!

Ive got a CTC stage 3 re-try in September... not sure what i'd do if (and that's a BIG IF) I got on.... it seems less likely that you'll get a job with MAPS.

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Old 20th Apr 2006, 11:28
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If you read the info on the FTE website it does tell you. I think you'll find it isn't a sponsorship either..I spoke to flybe to confirm this before sending back my answers to FTE. The student has to pay for the ab-initio training and there will be selected pilots to monitor the students from flybe. If everything is passed, then flybe will fund a JOC and type rating and offer of employment if there are positions. I thought it was a sponsorship but I guess its given away in the title!
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