grob and threemiles thanks for the replies;
Hello fireflybob,
the airport was LEVC -Valencia- and the Barcelona's control (ANETO or MAMES) clearence:
"XXXxxx identified FLXXX, proceed SAURA/SOPET expect VOR/DME RWY12"
Cheers,
Z
I can assure you that BCN did not advise us to expect VOR/DME RWY 12! Our entry point was PUMAL.
This was only a minor observation - on the whole I think Spanish ATC do a good job. Looks like the NOTAM delaying implementation of the ILS had not got through to our company system but my basic point is that if the ILS was not in service and the VOR/DME approach was in use this should be in the ATIS and/or notified by Approach control on initial contact.
I suppose what this debate proves is that flight safety is actually a matter of good teamwork (ie from pilots, controllers, assistants etc) but if you are playing a football game and lose 30 goals to nil you shouldnt blame it all on the goalkeeper!